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Physics Nobelist takes stand on evolution
"By the same standards that are used in
the courts, I think it is your responsibility to
judge that it is the theory of evolution through
natural selection that has won general scientific
acceptance. And therefore, it should be presented
to students as the consensus view of science, without
any alternatives being presented."
--Dr. Steven
Weinberg
The following is a transcript of testimony to the
Texas State Board of Education. Dr. Steven Weinberg,
professor of physics at the University of Texas at
Austin and a Nobel prize winner for electroweak theory,
addresses the Board.
DR. WEINBERG: Thank you. Hello. Thank you for the
opportunity to talk to you. I should say at the outset
that I haven't read the textbooks in question and I'm
not a biologist.
My Nobel Prize is not in biology, but is in physics.
But I have been a physicist for a long time. And
I think I have a good sense of how science works.
It
doesn't deal with certainties. We don't register
things as facts that we have to swear allegiance
to.
But as mathematics and experiment progress, certain
bodies of understanding become as sure as anything
reasonably can be. They attract an overwhelming
consensus of acceptance within the scientific community.
They
are what we teach our students.
And the most important thing of all, since our
time is so precious to us, they are what we assume
as
true when we do our own work. Evolution -- the
theory of
evolution through natural selection has certainly
reached that status as a consensus.
I've been through these issues not very much
professionally in recent years, but I was on
a panel of the National
Academy of Sciences some years ago that reviewed
these issues in order to prepare an amicus
brief in a similar
argument that was taking place in Arkansas
at that time. At that time, it had reached the
courts.
We know that there is such a thing as inheritable
variations
in animals and plants. And we know that these
change
through mutations. And it's mathematically
certain that as given inheritable variations, that
you
will have evolution toward greater adaptation.
So that
evolution
through natural selection occurs can't be in
doubt.
As I understand it, many who want to put alternative
theories into our textbooks argue that, although
that may be true, we don't know that that's
all that happens,
that there is not some intelligent design
that also assists the process of evolution. But
that's the
wrong question. We can never know that there
isn't something
beyond our theories. And that's not just
true
with regard to evolution. That's true with
regard to
everything.
We don't know that the theory of physics,
as it's currently understood, correctly accounts
for everything
in the
solar system. How could we? It's too complicated.
We don't understand the motion of every asteroid
in the
asteroid belts. Some of them really are doing
very complicated things. Do we know that
no
angel tips
the scales toward one asteroid moving a little
but further
than it otherwise would have in a certain
time? No, we can never know.
What we have to do is keep comparing what
we observe with our theories and keep verifying
that the theories
work, trying to explain more and more.
That's what's happened with evolution and it continues
to be
successful. There is not one thing that
is
known to be inexplicable
through evolution by natural selection,
which is not the same as saying that everything
has
been
explained, because it never will be. The
same applies to the
weather
or the solar system or what have you.
But I can say this, and many of the peak
scientists here will have said, I am
sure, the same thing.
You must be bored hearing this again
and again. But how
can you judge? I'm not a biologist, you're
not biologists.
There is a natural answer which is very
congenial to the American spirit, I think.
And that
is, well, let
the students judge. Why shouldn't they
have the chance to judge these issues
by themselves?
And
that, I
think, is the argument that many are
making.
But judge what? Judge the correctness
of evolution through natural selection?
Judge
the correctness
of Newton's law or the conservation
of energy or the fact
that the Earth is round rather than
flat? Where do we draw the line between the
issues that
we leave
open to the student's judgment and
the issues that we teach
as reasonably accepted scientific facts,
consensus theories?
The courts face a similar question.
They often are presented with testimony
or
testimony is
offered, for example, that someone
knows that a certain
crime
wasn't
committed because he has psychic
powers or someone sues someone in tort because
he's
been injured
by witchcraft. The Court does not
allow -- according to current doctrines,
the Court does not allow those arguments
to go to
the jury because the Court would
not be doing its job.
The Court must decide that those
things are not science. And the way the Court
does is
by asking:
What --
do these ideas have general scientific
acceptance? Does
witchcraft have general scientific
acceptance? Well, clearly, it doesn't.
And those
-- that testimony will not be allowed
to go
to the
jury.
How then can we allow ideas which
don't have general scientific acceptance
to go to high
school students,
not an adult jury? If we do, we are
not -- or you are not doing your
job
of deciding
what is
there
that is
controversial. And that might be
an interesting subject to be discussed,
as for example
the
rate of evolution,
the question of whether it's smooth,
punctuated by jumps or whether it's
-- or whether
it's just gradual.
These are interesting questions which
are still controversial which could
go to students
and
give them a chance
to exercise their judgment.
But you're not doing your job if
you let a question like the validity
of
evolution through
natural
selection go to the students, anymore
than
a judge is doing
his job or her job if he or she
allows the question of
witchcraft to go to the jury. And
why this particular issue of evolution?
Why not
the round Earth or
Newton's theory or Copernicus,
the Earth goes around the sun?
Well, I think it's rather disingenuous
to say that this is simply because
there's a
real
scientific conflict here, because
there
is no more of a
scientific
conflict
than with those issues.
I do get involved in this issue.
I think it's clear that the reason
why
the issue
was raised
with regard
to evolution is because of an
attempt to preserve religious beliefs against
the
possible impact
of the theory of
evolution.
I don't think teachers have any
business either preserving
religious beliefs
or attacking religious
beliefs.
I think they should teach science.
And science, as the courts
understand it, in that other
context, is
what is generally
accepted
by
scientists. And what is the
evidence that evolution through
natural
selection is generally accepted
through science? I
don't think -- general acceptance
doesn't mean unanimity.
I know there are Ph.D. scientists
who take an opposite view.
There's not one member
of the National Academy
of Sciences
who does.
There's not one winner
of the National Medal
of Science
who
does.
There's not one Nobel
Laureate in biology
who takes the
view that there's
any
question about
the validity
of the theory of
evolution through natural selection
or that there
is any alternative
theory that's
worth discussing.
So by the same standards
that are used in
the courts, I think
it
is your responsibility
to
judge that
it is the theory
of
evolution through
natural selection
that has won
general scientific
acceptance. And
therefore,
it should be presented
to students as the
consensus view of
science,
without any
alternatives
being
presented.
Thank
you very much.
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