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Session two is a joint interview with Robert Herman. Family background and early education, work at Carnegie Institution's Department of Terrestrial Magnetism, studies at George Washington University, wartime employment and studies, work with Navy on detection of mines; graduate studies with George Gamow while working at Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory, early universe theory, first encounter and later work with Robert Herman, interaction with physics community. Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar and L. R.
Early youth in Canton, South Dakota; teenage interest with E. O. Lawrence in radios and electricity; origins of physics interest at Augustana Academy, Canton; college years at the University of Minnesota until 1923; graduate work at Princeton University and at Johns Hopkins University; Ph.D. at Hopkins in 1926 for collaboration with Gregory Breit studying ionosphere with radio waves; position at Carnegie Institution’s Department of Terrestrial Magnetism (DTM); nuclear physics work with Odd Dahl, L. R.