Energy Secretary Rick Perry testifies before the Senate Energy and Water Development Appropriations Subcommittee on April 11.
(Image credit – Senate Appropriations Committee)
At an April 11 Senate hearing
In his opening statement
Energy Secretary Rick Perry testifies before the Senate Energy and Water Development Appropriations Subcommittee on April 11.
(Image credit – Senate Appropriations Committee)
Feinstein criticized the president’s budget as “just cut, cut, cut,” and said she is “deeply disappointed” the administration did not adhere to the defense and nondefense spending levels that Congress and President Trump agreed to for fiscal year 2019 in a bipartisan budget agreement
Noting the president’s budget request for DOE proposes cutting nondefense programs by $3.9 billion while increasing defense funding, Feinstein declared,
That’s not the kind of parity between defense and nondefense that Congress just agreed to and that the president signed into law.
The fiscal year 2019 budget request, which the administration prepared before fiscal year 2018 levels for DOE were finalized, proposes
Against the backdrop of the administration’s proposed cuts, Alexander gave a ringing defense of DOE’s R&D portfolio, saying:
Research funding for the Department of Energy laboratories has produced technologies for unconventional natural gas development, supercomputing, 3D printing, nuclear imaging devices used for medicine, MRI scanners, optical digital recording technologies, batteries and energy storage systems, precision detectors, pharmaceuticals. It’s hard to think of a major technological advance since World War II that hasn’t had some sort of federal research support. That’s made us a world leader in science and technology. It’s one important reason why the United States produces nearly one out of every four dollars in wealth produced in the world.
Noting that he is pleased the budget request prioritizes supercomputing, Alexander inquired about DOE’s timeframe for developing exascale capabilities and how they will benefit the country. Perry replied that DOE is making significant progress with a recent $1.8 billion call for proposals
The U.S. will have the fastest computer in the world “for a period of time” as the result of these procurements, he said. But, he added, the competition will go on, reminding members that “our friends in China and elsewhere are very capable.”
DOE’s Exascale Computing Project is one of its few nondefense programs the Trump administration has sought
In response to a concern from Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA) that “China is beating our brains out in terms of battery technology,” Perry acknowledged that “China is a heck of a competitor” but that the U.S. is “in the game on battery storage.” He added,
I believe battery storage is the holy grail of the energy side of things going forward, particularly on the renewable side, and we’re working and making good progress. [Pacific Northwest National Laboratory] out in Senator Murray’s state, they are doing some fabulous work on batteries, battery storage. And I will suggest to you the answer will be found in our universities and our international labs working together on battery storage.
Perry replied that “pulling that one line item and saying this is all of the dollars that we’re going to be focusing on a particular effort might be a little bit narrow in scope.” Merkley asked him to point to the other areas of the budget where battery storage is being funded.
DOE Under Secretary for Science Paul Dabbar, who was also present at the hearing, stepped in, saying there are other battery funding line items at DOE, including in ARPA–E, the Office of Science, and the Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy.
Merkley interjected, pointing out that ARPA–E could not fund battery storage R&D if it is eliminated. He continued,
Mr. Secretary, if you believe that high-risk, high-return strategy is the appropriate role for government spending, and I think that’s what I heard you say that you prefer to do it there than after you have mature technologies. Then why are you cutting ARPA-E to zero?
Senate appropriators, including Feinstein, have been skeptical in recent years about the U.S. contribution to ITER, the large-scale international fusion energy project based in France, proposing to zero out its budget for multiple years in a row. Feinstein inquired about the administration’s current approach, asking why DOE only requested $75 million for the U.S. contribution to the project this year when funding would need to be at $200 million or greater to maintain the U.S.’ commitment of 9 percent of the project’s lifecycle cost.
Pointing out the riskiness of the project, Feinstein said that while ITER funding supports American jobs and involvement, “whether ITER can ever be successful or not, I think is still unknown.” Perry said he too is unsure whether ITER will ultimately be a successful scientific project.
Perry did add, however, that sometimes high-risk investments such as ITER are worth taking:
We also realize that for the future of energy, we’re going to be traveling down some roads from time to time that we don’t know what the destination may look like that we’re trying to get to. … The fact is, on this project, that may be one of those.
According to reporting from Physics Today, Bigot has objected
As for the U.S.’ future role in ITER, Perry said the administration is currently carrying out a “very high-level review” of nuclear energy-related activities, including ITER. The administration is expected to make a final decision on whether to stay fully committed as a part of that review, although Feinstein and Alexander speculated the decision probably would not be ready before they draft this year’s spending bill for DOE.
Later in the hearing, Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) questioned whether DOE is committed to properly implementing appropriations law, given violations identified
“At least twice in 2017,” she said, there has been “confusion around timing and delays particularly with respect to the DOE violating the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act by withholding appropriated funds for ARPA–E and weatherization.” She cited a letter
When Shaheen asked what Perry would do to ensure this does not happen again, Perry assured her that he will follow Congress’ lead on setting the budget:
One of the things I learned as [governor] back in my days is that … appropriators do a lot of hard work and lay the budgets out, and governors sometimes don’t get to write those budgets. … I respect what you do, and I happen to know what my role is here. If this committee decides that they’re going to fund ARPA–E at a certain level, I’m going to implement it and run it as efficiently and effectively as we can. So I hope that you know we respect your right to write that budget and us to implement it.